Projects and how to`s

I just keep bumping in to how to`s and projects that are not real or are just simply stolen.
And it irritates me so much.
I dont want to sound mean or anything,but if someone posts a project with a picture that is clearly just downloaded from somewhere on the internet,then its not a real project.Its not yours,so why do you post it under your projects list?
Or if someone posts a how to with pictures from the internet,its not a how to.Its just an idea.
If you like the idea,why dont you make it yourself,take pictures and post it.And just add a link to the original,or write "inspired by" or anything.
There are a lot of projects that are so obviously not made by the person who posted them.
I understand when someone wants to share an idea or recipe that she saw,but if you like it so much that you post it here,then why dont you try it out and make it yourself?!
This is a step by step tutorial site witch means you dont just download some pics from the internet,throw them together and say that its yours.


Sorry guys,rant over.

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115 replies since 14th June 2010 • Last reply 14th June 2010

Oh, Violetta, you read my mind =)
Every time i posted a project and had to declare that all images and text are my own creation a thought would always cross my mind: "how dare they steal and post???". If you wanna share, then really, post a link on the board or something =( It actually puts me off of showing some really cool stuff, cos i'm mildly paranoid that without watermarks someone can do "whatever" with them =(
And also, these people without ANY projects made [but registered years ago] that lurk around adding "faves" and "to make" lists? What do you think of them? They don't leave comments, and never write back...
I dunno, i'm kinda new to the world of internet, but i think that basic morals apply to any aspect of life, communication and connection.
Don't taint your Karma, people!

Much Love to you, Violetta! I think that a blog is a great idea, actually =)
xx

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You know I actually saw a project with pictures with watermarks.
I dont have any problem with people with no projects faving,I have a problem when they leave mean comments.I saw a few like that,but I didnt get any.

Love ya back Negin! Happy

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i used pictures from the internet for a how-to recently, but i did make the project. actually, it was for the pasta sauce i had for dinner that night, my camera broke down, so i couldn't take my own pictures. that's why i used the internet ones. but just putting a project on here without having made it yourself? why? you didn't make it, so you don't say its your project. or at least that's what i think.

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Violetta... there are definitely some super culprits of this! I can think of one person in particular - not a single one of their projects in their own and it makes me want to stomp my feet! >.< At least declare that you've stolen internet pictures and copied something you've seen elsewhere, eh? Maybe some kind of user moderation could help? Or a report function on projects, rather than users? xxx

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I remember emailing Cat a while back because one of the featured projects was stolen off another website! Someone hadn't just done it and called it their own idea, the whole thing was lifted straight off another site and it was a pretty popular site too. Several people noticed and commented but it stayed the featured project which I felt was a bit wrong. I don't know how you get round this though without slowing down the publishing of projects and how tos. As far as I'm aware its mainly Tom and Cat who run the site and they do a pretty amazing job. I suppose all we can do is draw their attention to anything that seems suspect. I also think there's nothing wrong commenting and drawing peoples attention to dodgy makes The one I emailed Cat about was the embroidered knitted boots. They were off another site called Urban Threads. I did message the person who posted it here to ask if they were Urban Threads but heard nothing back. I would assume if the person posting here was the person who made the original then they would be more than happy to have people link back to their own site.
As far as people joining up and not posting creations or how tos - I don't have a problem with that. Its probably a large chunk of the users of this site and that seems fine with me.

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yea it gets to me too. actually what drives me nuts is when people post a "tutorial" for a project but it's more of an idea for something. also when the projects is soooooo simple, i think to myself, "really, do we need a tutorial for that?" . there have been some projets that make me raise my eyebrows but i never say anything. i just hate to see the spirit of this website be marred by stuff like this.

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I've never seen anything like that here before but I'll probably run into it. It's a shame. But I really like the idea of some form of user moderation... like maybe a flag button to call attention to something suspicious?

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I know exactly what you mean Violetta!
I have started to notice this alot lately on this site! It makes me feel sorry for the real crafters out there who actually put alot of effort into their creations/how toos and are kind enough to share them with everyone!

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Sadly it does happen. But I've also seen people post really rude comments about it. Yes what they did was wrong but we need to message them, not post it publicly, I mean on the project. I saw one creation that that was stolen from a site and someone had posted quite rudely on it. As much as I'd like to post comments on those projects we really need to just message cat.

But I very much agree that its wrong and we need a way to flag it or such. I don't think someone should get credit for a project they didn't make

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There is a button now for reporting a user so I assume this is in response to this kind of problem. I agree though that rude messages on a project isn't the way to draw attention to an iffy project. It just tends to reflect badly on the person leaving the message.

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KitKat I saw those boots on Urban Threads too.I taught it was the same person.pfff...
SyntheticStars I know what you mean,thats the person who's project list made me start this thread.And I saw other users tell her,that the stuff is stolen (and they said it in a nice and polite way) but she just keeps on publishing.

If your project is maybe a face masc or a scrub its ok to download a picture of a jar or strawberries,but then again,why not take a picture of your scrub?

Check out this project:

http://www.cutoutandkeep.net/projects/book-tree

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manabunga - I am probably one of these people that fav a lot of projects yet I only have one project of my own. The thing is I like all things creative yet I have little skills in sewing and pretty much no skills in other forms of craft. As well as this I am very self-conscious of others thinking of how basic and awful my projects would be because of the lack of skills - I tried making an iPod cover out of denim scraps and it was so awful that I didn't want to put it up on here. I don't see the problem in appreciating the art and inspiration of others whilst not doing any yourself. Althought I do comment on projects that I feel are good and outstanding and I am actively commenting on boards and comments positivley, so I guess that last bit doesn't really relate to me.

However I agree with people publishing projects from other websites and stuff that is not origionally theirs, just so long as they reference the website they found it in and state that it is not an origional project of theirs and have attempted to make it themselves. I think I saw an example of this with a cake receipe that I found on this website, yet when I googled it I found the same receipe and picture on an independant website. I do not know which one is the origional but it makes me sad that someone feels the need to do this, although people may do it for a number of reasons, it's still sad to see!! I don't mind someone that puts up someone else's project and pictures so long as they explain that it isn't their project and reference it!!! And it would be even better if they have made the project themselves.

Other than this I would not find it acceptable at all, ESPECIALLY the ones that clearly try and palm off the project as their own.

I also agree with you Violetta for people that feel the need to leave nasty feedback. There is no need, if they don't like it they don't have to comment. If someone feels the need to say why they don't like something they could always be dipolmatic if they had to!!

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Violetta, that book tree project is the one that winds me up the most I think... the fact that it's a known artists work! Plagiarism is a very interesting form of praise... that's for sure!

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I'll be honest - I've taken pics of some of my projects that are food based and thought they looked a bit yicky so I can get that someone would put a pic of a strawberry when they made a face mask. My Korma was touch and go whether it made it onto the web as it didn't photograph well Happy

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