Coal Mine Re-Opening

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7656988.stm

They go on and on about the environment these days and yet the go ahead has been given to re-open this mine. There was only one mention of the environment in that report and it didn't even take in the bigger picture, it just said about the effect on the villagers and house prices. Fair enough it would give employment oppourtunies and improve their local economy but there are better ways then coal for this. I don't think there's many factories left in Britain and I doubt they'd bring the work back here when there's great lumps of coal just sitting underground.

It's not just global warming, they're digging up a field which probably has wildlife there. Wow, yeh employment for a while and then what happens when the coal is all gone? They'd still build over the site which would lead to homes collapsing due to subsidence (there were a lot of mines here and there has been a lot of subsidence because of homes being built over the mines). And then if the effects of global warming actually happens whenever it does, these people's great great great great grandkids (or whatever) won't have an earth, never mind jobs! It's always about fucking money!

(And I don't want to hear 'but how do we know global warming is real?' there are pictures from space of the ice caps decreasing in size.)

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6 replies since 7th October 2008 • Last reply 7th October 2008

I don't agree with using up fossil fuels and things, and in this current climate i don't think re-opening it is a good idea- but I do believe that closing them all in the first place was a mistake. That's all I've got to say really, but I didn't want this to be a silent thread!

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aaw thank you!

I'm very half and half about it actually, this town would be very different if there was still mines. I just can't believe with everything the Government's been doing trying to reach targets...bin men coming every fortnight instead of once a week, recycling bags and stuff, conjestion charges it just doesn't make sense. And again, it's all about money!

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Aww thats sad. I can see the logic on both ends, because in the long run, it really wont help at all, it will just hurt. But for these people who need the jobs, they don't care about the effects 300 years from now, they have a family they need to feed NOW.

I see both sides, and its hard, because I love this earth, I'm such an environmentalist and I'm wiccan which just DOUBLES that love for the earth, But I'm also a humanitarian. I believe that humans need help and they deserve it, and though many of them are greedy bastards, most of them are good deep down in some way. Its hard : I hate stuff like that. Its like... who wins? No one.

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*sigh* it's so hard being nice isn't it!

This is an example of terraced houses:

http://www.photoeverywhere.co.uk/britain/manchester/terracesteets2219.jpg

Americans don't have them so I'm showing you, there are quite a few here, espeically along the main road and at one time this whole area was terraced houses. They are over 100 years old (take that Mr Queens, NY cab driver, telling me 80 year old homes were old!)and they were built for miners to live in, they're really good houses as you can guess from how old they are, even though they don't look nice in that pic, thats not near me. The ones near me say '1870 a.d.' on the front of them!
But my point is that that's how much of a miners town this town used to be and a lot of unemployment is in these sorts of places because it's just in our (or well, their blood) blood to work that sort of job. I'm not really like that though, maybe cuz I'm a girl, mine eeew no, wouldn't mind a factory job at the moment though! Really it's like you have to give it up on a silver plate for them to actually work, since the jobs are there it's just the skills they're lacking. Again, it's money, it's easier then making people go to college.

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well what kind of mine are the talking about? If its an open pit, thats bad, underground?

But I do think we could concentrate on cleaner methods of power. Solar, water...

and in St John's we do have terraced homes, but ours are wooden. They would be older, but most burnt down after the great fires of the 1800's

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ok I looked at the BBC link and yes, opencast is wrong.

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