whats with the snarky comments?

It seems that some people who have profiles on here only seem to say rude things in their comments. Whats up with that? Didnt their mothers ever teach them if they dont have something nice to say to shut their trap?! Honestly?!!! Someone left what i feel is a pretty rude comment on one of my projects basically accuseing me of stealing another co+k-ers project and trying to pass it off as my own. So thinking i may have commited a accidental faux pa i went to the other project and checked to be sure. So i ask just as an example: If you make a stuffed owl out of fabric(we will say owl even tho thats not it is) Then quite some time later I post an owl made of fabric which i made my own pattern for. Am i obligated to post it as a version even if it isn't in any way related to your owl? Hmmm. I think not but tell me your opinion.

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33 replies since 17th September 2010 • Last reply 17th September 2010

I think on some crafts like owls or mustaches, they are such a popular trend that it is ridiculous to accuse someone of not listing it as a version. If it’s something 50 people are making then no one is the creator of said item. Although I did leave a similar comment on that Kat person when she posted a collar tutorial that was literally posted a week after someone else did something super similar. But that’s also because she’s partnered with Co+K and she makes these half-hearted projects that are kind of silly so it makes me a little grr!

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Umm..my opinion?

There are no original ideas. Even the most unusual project was devised by someone who was inspired by something. Lets say, for example...I see your mustache necklace and think, "mustache, cool" and then a few days latter, I see a V.W. Beetle and think, "beetle, mustache...COOL" So, I go and make a car with a mustache necklace.

I was inspired by someone else's work, or nature, or whatever. I'm not GOD. I couldn't possibly claim to have divine ownership over an idea. And people who do are incredibly pretentious.

With that said, I don't believe you can type your name and a little copyright symbol and force people to pay you for ideas. If you design a completely new character and pay to have it trademarked. (Disney, Pokemon, Martha Stewart, etc) then you PAID for it, so you can claim ownership.

I'm going through this right now because of the chicken pattern I PURCHASED recently. The designer of the pattern says I can't sell things that I MADE WITH MY OWN HANDS if I use her pattern, because she thinks that typing a little (c) on it makes it hers. (Did she go through the appropriate legal channels? no.) She says in a rather haughty way (you can sell them if you donate the money to charity...)Pfft!

Just how many chicken patterns are there out there? How similar do you think they are? A chicken is a chicken. It doesn't change much, so I figure there really aren't many "unique" ways to make a pattern. How can you claim it? I don't get it.

I'm all about open source. You make it, it's yours. If you want to be nice, tell people who your inspiration was, but you shouldn't be made to feel like your craft is their's because they happened to post it first on one website. How many other "projects" of vary similar nature have been posted elsewhere before "CO+K MEMBER" posted hers here? Do you really think she is the only person who's ever thought of this idea? Do you really think she didn't see something similar somewhere else?

Ideas, ya'll. That's all it is. It's not like you're stealing something tangible. No one can claim ownership on an idea!

*sorry for the rant. This kind of stuff really gets on my nerves. If you had copy/pasted pictures and words, or stolen the actual creation and tried to pass it off as your own. THAT would be a different story.

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I agree with Des.

now I don't like the people who steal the images from others on here and other sites and claim it to be their own. You know what you made, what your style is, and you can tell when someone steals it

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Nice rant Dessah, I totally agree!

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Thanks for your input ladies! I agree too. I just didnt want to seem a theif because I would never intentionally do something like that. I'm VERY conscious of how i treat others and my karma. Harm to none and love to all. I really appreciate the support. yall are GREAT!!

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Hi
There have been problems with people actually, really, ripping off quite complex projects.

Perhaps whoever left that comment had that at the forefront of their mind and was just being a little over-sensitive to it?

I totally agree that with very simple things that loads of people make (cakes, moustaches, owls, beads etc') it could reach a really silly level if every new make was a 'version' - especially as it's most likely the first COAK version wasn't the first EVER, merely the first here.

Plus, sometimes I just post a project and I haven't checked every project ever made to see if something similar was added last year or whatever. The fact I'm not aware of whether any have been posted or not is proof, to me, that I haven't copied.

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well, if it was a tutorial then you post a version. But if you post a owl plushie you made using your own pattern, then who cares. You didn't use that pattern, so why post a version

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There's a REALLY popular project on the site at the moment which is a blatant copy of something made by a design company. The product would be massed produced so the copy is more of a creative process BUT I'm tempted to say 'Well done it looks great but you SHOULD probably credit the brand and company you're trying to emulate.'
It's a great project but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed that the person hasn't admitted it wasn't technically their idea but a home-stores.....

BUT at the same time I have the feeling in the back of my mind that every project is an inspiration and progression from something else. But credit must be made where credit is due. If your inspired by something you've seen or someone else has made there's no shame in that!

But two people often have the same simple idea independently and that is fair enough.

I've also been politely messaged to say that I should change my project to a version but I refused as I honestly hadn't used the previous project or site to make mine!

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I totally agree with Dessah, well said honey Happy

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Thank you Lolly! I feel rude for feeling that way sometimes...but dang it, it's how I feel!

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Yes, I agree with Dessah too Happy


There has been a lot said on the threads lately about projects not being original, that I'm almost afraid to post anything in case someone comes down on me like a ton of bricks saying I copied someone else! I don't check through all the previous creations before I post one of my own, and although mine are certainly all my own work and ideas, I know that someone else may have come up with something similar before. There's really nothing thats completely new, only things that you may not have come across before.

As for anyone copying me, well just go ahead...I'm only too glad if I've given someone inspiration, or helped them with a method of technique . It's all about making and sharing, as far as I'm concerned Happy

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Um, I'm a bit uncomfortable with this bit "Although I did leave a similar comment on that Kat person... But that’s also because she’s partnered with Co+K and she makes these half-hearted projects that are kind of silly so it makes me a little grr!"

Cat does an amazing job of running this site, if you're not a fan of her projects then it's a matter of personal taste. What projects people like and don't is very subjective in my opinion!

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Oops. That was my bad, I meant Audrey Kitching. She started off with some good tutorials and then she did a few really silly tutorials that felt like to me, she was just doing them because she had to. There wasn't a ton of thought into them in my opinion. I just don't really consider one step tutorials as actual tutorials. You can easily describe how you did something in the description box and leave it as a creation.

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Ace - glad that got cleared up ^^

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